1familysearch web site http://www.familysearch.org, https://www.familysearch.org/. "Name: Martin Afman
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1910
Event Place: Wyoming, Kent, Michigan, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 14
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Race (Original): White
Relationship to Head of Household: Son
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Son
Birth Year (Estimated): 1896
Birthplace: Michigan
Father's Birthplace: Holland
Mother's Birthplace: Holland
Sheet Letter: A
Sheet Number: 3
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
William Afman Head M 41 Holland
Martji Afman Wife F 40 Holland
Tyler Afman Son M 17 Holland
Benjamin Afman Son M 15 Michigan
Martin Afman Son M 14 Michigan
Jelte Afman Son M 12 Michigan
Winnie Afman Daughter F 11 Michigan
Cornelius Afman Son M 9 Michigan
Tina Afman Daughter F 7 Michigan
Cora Afman Daughter F 5 Michigan
John Afman Son M 3 Michigan
District: ED 148
Sheet Number and Letter: 3A
Household ID: 51
Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)
Affiliate Publication Number: T624
Affiliate Film Number: 656
GS Film Number: 1374669
Digital Folder Number: 004972487
Image Number: 00142
Citing this Record
"United States Census, 1910," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:ML5P-JKF : accessed 22 November 2019), John Afman in household of William Afman, Wyoming, Kent, Michigan, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) ED 148, sheet 3A, family 51, NARA microfilm publication T624 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1982), roll 656; FHL microfilm 1,374,669."2familysearch web site http://www.familysearch.org. "Name: Mati...S Afman
Birth Date: 06 Feb 1896
Birthplace: Zeeland, Ottawa, Michigan
Gender: Male
Father's Name: William Afman
Father's Birthplace: Netherlands
Mother's Name: Maartji Afman
Mother's Birthplace: Netherlands
Other information in the record of Mati...S Afman
Name: Mati...S Afman
Birth Date: 06 Feb 1896
Birthplace: Zeeland, Ottawa, Michigan
Gender: Male
Father's Name: William Afman
Father's Birthplace: Netherlands
Mother's Name: Maartji Afman
Mother's Birthplace: Netherlands
Reference ID: item 1 p 361 rn 987
GS Film number: 2322710
Digital Folder Number: 4206436
Image Number: 702
Citing this Record
"Michigan Births, 1867-1902," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NQ6C-WBH : 12 August 2019), Maartji Afman in entry for Mati...S Afman, 06 Feb 1896; citing item 1 p 361 rn 987, Zeeland, Ottawa, Michigan, Department of Vital Records, Lansing; FHL microfilm 2,322,710."3familysearch web site http://www.familysearch.org. "Name: Martin Afman
Gender: Male
Burial Date: 19 May 1942
Burial Place: Plainwell, Michigan
Death Date: 15 May 1942
Death Place: Gunplain, Allegan, Michigan
Age: 46
Birth Date: 06 Feb 1896
Birthplace: Jamestown, Mich.
Occupation: Butcher
Race: White
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Martha Afman
Father's Name: William Afman
Father's Birthplace: Netherlands
Mother's Name: Martha Meulenbelt
Mother's Birthplace: Netherlands
Other information in the record of Martin Afman
Name: Martin Afman
Gender: Male
Burial Date: 19 May 1942
Burial Place: Plainwell, Michigan
Death Date: 15 May 1942
Death Place: Gunplain, Allegan, Michigan
Age: 46
Birth Date: 06 Feb 1896
Birthplace: Jamestown, Mich.
Occupation: Butcher
Race: White
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Martha Afman
Father's Name: William Afman
Father's Birthplace: Netherlands
Mother's Name: Martha Meulenbelt
Mother's Birthplace: Netherlands
Reference ID: p85
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B03030-9
System Origin: Michigan-EASy
GS Film number: 2110084
Digital Folder Number: 4024624
Image Number: 1131
Citing this Record
"Michigan Deaths and Burials, 1800-1995," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FHCX-VC3 : 11 February 2018), Martha Afman in entry for Martin Afman, 15 May 1942; citing Gunplain, Allegan, Michigan, reference p85; FHL microfilm 2,110,084."4findagrave.com. " Martin Afman
Birth 6 Feb 1896
Jamestown, Ottawa County, Michigan, USA
Death 15 May 1942 (aged 46)
Allegan County, Michigan, USA
Burial
Hillside Cemetery
Plainwell, Allegan County, Michigan, USA
Plot KK24/7
Memorial ID 127463472 · View Source
Memorial
Photos 1
Flowers 1
Name: Martin Afman
Birth Date: 6 Feb 1896
Birth Place: Jamestown, Mich.
Death Date: 15 May 1942
Death Place: Gunplain, Allegan, Michigan
Burial Date: 19 May 1942
Burial Place: Plainwell, Mich.
Cemetery Name: Hillside
Death Age: 46
Occupation: Butcher
Race: White
Marital Status: Married
Gender: Male
Street address: 224 E. Chart St.
Residence: Plainwell, Allegan Co., Michigan
Father Name: William Afman
Father Birth Place: Netherlands
Mother Name: Martha Meulenbelt
Mother Birth Place: Netherlands
Spouse Name: Martha Afman
Family Members
Spouse
Photo
Martha Ritsema Afman
1899–1973
Children
William Afman
1924–1976
Photo
Geraldine Ruth Afman Cave
1934–2011."
1findagrave.com. " Martha Ritsema Afman
Birth 27 Sep 1899
Death 1 Mar 1973 (aged 73)
Burial
Hillside Cemetery
Plainwell, Allegan County, Michigan, USA
Plot KK24/5
Memorial ID 127463767 · View Source
Memorial
Photos 1
Flowers 1
parents:
Fred Ritsema
1864 – 1954
Elizabeth Hamminga
1866 – 1949
Family Members
Spouse
Photo
Martin Afman
1896–1942
Children
William Afman
1924–1976
Photo
Geraldine Ruth Afman Cave
1934–2011."
1findagrave.com. " Martha Ritsema Afman
Birth 27 Sep 1899
Death 1 Mar 1973 (aged 73)
Burial
Hillside Cemetery
Plainwell, Allegan County, Michigan, USA
Plot KK24/5
Memorial ID 127463767 · View Source
Memorial
Photos 1
Flowers 1
parents:
Fred Ritsema
1864 – 1954
Elizabeth Hamminga
1866 – 1949
Family Members
Spouse
Photo
Martin Afman
1896–1942
Children
William Afman
1924–1976
Photo
Geraldine Ruth Afman Cave
1934–2011."
1findagrave.com. " Martha Ritsema Afman
Birth 27 Sep 1899
Death 1 Mar 1973 (aged 73)
Burial
Hillside Cemetery
Plainwell, Allegan County, Michigan, USA
Plot KK24/5
Memorial ID 127463767 · View Source
Memorial
Photos 1
Flowers 1
parents:
Fred Ritsema
1864 – 1954
Elizabeth Hamminga
1866 – 1949
Family Members
Spouse
Photo
Martin Afman
1896–1942
Children
William Afman
1924–1976
Photo
Geraldine Ruth Afman Cave
1934–2011."
1Ancestry DNA ThruLines link, https://www.ancestry.com/dna/. "John Vermeer relationship to rgren12345
When two people have a DNA match, it means they inherited DNA from one or more recent common ancestors. The length of DNA they have in common is estimated in centimorgans (cM). The higher the number, the closer the relationship.
john vermeer
RG
17 centimorgans shared across 1 DNA segments
DNA Relationship
You and rgren12345 share 17 cM. This table shows the percentage of the time people sharing 17 cM have the following relationships:
Percent Relationship
22%
3rd cousin 1x removed
half 3rd cousin
half 2nd cousin 2x removed
2nd cousin 3x removed
22%
4th cousin
3rd cousin 2x removed
half 3rd cousin 1x removed
half 2nd cousin 3x removed
16%
4th cousin 1x removed
half 4th cousin
half 3rd cousin 2x removed
3rd cousin 3x removed
14%
3rd cousin
2nd cousin 2x removed
half 2nd cousin 1x removed
half 1st cousin 3x removed
11%
distant relationship
10%
5th cousin
4th cousin 2x removed
half 4th cousin 1x removed
half 3rd cousin 3x removed
3%
2nd cousin 1x removed
half 2nd cousin
1st cousin 3x removed
half 1st cousin 2x removed
<1%
2nd cousin
1st cousin 2x removed
half 1st cousin 1x removed
half 2nd great-aunt/uncle
half 2nd great-niece/nephew
Comparing Your Tree Relationship
Based on Ancestry member trees, it looks like you and rgren12345 have at least one common ancestor. According to your trees, your expected relationship through your shared ancestor is 6th cousin."
1AlleGroningers Web, www.AlleGroningers.nl. "Kerkeboek 1666-1811
Bron: Registraties vóór 1811Soort registratie: trouwakte (tot 1811)(Akte)datum: 04-12-1785Plaats: Kerkelijke gemeente - FeerwerdSoort akte: huwelijk
Bruidegom
Jakob Hindriks
Diversen: van Feerwerd
Bruid
Martjen Ates
Diversen: van Feerwerd, weduwe van Liendert Jans
Bronvermelding
Kerkeboek 1666-1811, archiefnummer 124, Doop-, trouw- en begraafboeken enz. in de provincie Groningen, inventarisnummer 72, blad 516
Gemeente: Kerkelijke gemeente - Feerwerd
Kerkeboek 1666-1811 pagina 516 aktenummer Bekijk akte
Download scan."
1AlleGroningers Web, www.AlleGroningers.nl. "Overlijdensregister 1865
Bron: burgerlijke standregisterSoort registratie: overlijdensakte(Akte)datum: 30-09-1865Plaats: Ezinge
Overledene
Pieter Leenderts de Wit 85 jaar oud, geboren te Feerwerd gem. Ezinge , op 29-09-1865 te Ezinge
echtgenote Martje Hendriks Bosma
Vader
Leendert Reinders de Wit
Moeder
Martje Ates Bazuin."2AlleGroningers Web. "Doop 11-03-1742 Garnwerd - Oostum
Dopeling Martien
Geslacht v
Vader Ate Reiners
Moeder Hilje Jans
Opmerkingen Garnwerd uit de hoek
Bron Doop- en trouwboek Garnwerd en Oostum 1700-1783
Collectie DTB (toegang 124)
Inventarisnummer 86, folio 56."3AlleGroningers Web. "Kerkeboek 1666-1811
Bron: Registraties vóór 1811Soort registratie: trouwakte (tot 1811)(Akte)datum: 04-12-1785Plaats: Kerkelijke gemeente - FeerwerdSoort akte: huwelijk
Bruidegom
Jakob Hindriks
Diversen: van Feerwerd
Bruid
Martjen Ates
Diversen: van Feerwerd, weduwe van Liendert Jans
Bronvermelding
Kerkeboek 1666-1811, archiefnummer 124, Doop-, trouw- en begraafboeken enz. in de provincie Groningen, inventarisnummer 72, blad 516
Gemeente: Kerkelijke gemeente - Feerwerd
Kerkeboek 1666-1811 pagina 516 aktenummer Bekijk akte
Download scan."4Tromp: Kwartierstaat van Popko Tromp, http://home.hetnet.nl/~mbj_hoogesteger/kwartierstaatpt/kwrtst.htm.
1familysearch web site http://www.familysearch.org, https://www.familysearch.org/. "Name: Jan Nestra
Event Type: Birth
Event Date: 29 Apr 1910
Event Place: Leeuwarden, Friesland, Nederland
Event Place (Original): Leeuwarden
Residence Place: Leeuwarden
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 29 Apr 1910
Father's Name: Jan Nestra
Mother's Name: Japke Sijbes Riedstra
Reference ID: Leeuwarden, archive 9, inventory number 3459, record number 326
Source Note: Geboorteakte
Affiliate Name: AlleFriezen
Citing this Record
"Netherlands, Archival Indexes, Vital Records," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL43-5Q4Q : 22 August 2017), Japke Sijbes Riedstra in entry for Jan Nestra, Birth 29 Apr 1910, Leeuwarden, Friesland, Nederland; from database, openarchives (https://www.openarch.nl : 2016); citing Leeuwarden, archive 9, inventory number 3459, record number 326; ; AlleFriezen."2findagrave.com. " John Nestra, Jr
Birth 29 Apr 1910
Netherlands
Death 12 Sep 1984 (aged 74)
Fremont, Sandusky County, Ohio, USA
Burial
McPherson Cemetery
Clyde, Sandusky County, Ohio, USA
Plot Section V, Lot 4, Lot 20
Memorial ID 122079076 · View Source
Memorial
Photos 0
Flowers 1
Family Members
Spouse
Photo
Donna Marion Rowe Nestra
1910–2008."
1America's Obituaries & Death Notices, http://infoweb.newsbank.com.access-proxy.sno-isle.org. "Deceased Name: Donna Nestra April 6, 1910 - Jan. 16, 2008
Sandusky Register (OH) - January 20, 2008
Author/Byline: Sandusky Register StaffSection: Obituaries
SANDUSKY
Donna Marion (Rowe) Nestra , 97, of Sandusky, died Wednesday evening, Jan. 16, 2008, in Providence Care Center, Sandusky.
She was born April 6, 1910, in Imlay City, Mich., and moved to Clyde in 1956. She has lived in Sandusky, at Viewpoint, since 1976. She worked at Traveler's Insurance Company, in Detroit, for 10 years, and then worked at Fridley's Supermarket, Clyde, for several years. She had many interests including reading, dancing, watching musicals, cooking, collecting recipes, and traveling; but at the top of her list was spending time with her children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren.
She is survived by her daughter, Diane (Chuck) Allendorf of Huron; a son, John Nestra of Huron; two grandchildren, Amy (Todd) Brown of Huron, and John (Katie) Allendorf , of Columbus; and two great-grandchildren, Casey and Evan Brown.
She is preceded in death by her parents Edward and Ethel (St. John ) Rowe.
Private family services were performed at Foster Funeral Home, Huron, with Rev. Tom Goossens, Hartland Hospice Chaplain, officiating. Burial was in Scott Cemetery, Huron.
Contributions may be given to Providence Care Fund, Sandusky. Condolences may be shared at fosterfh.com.
Record: 986c21b10c2707a51d5b5ef80d5b5f52558ed0Copyright: Copyright 2008, The Sandusky Register."2findagrave.com. " Donna Marion Rowe Nestra
Birth 6 Apr 1910
Death 16 Jan 2008 (aged 97)
Burial
Scott Union Cemetery
Huron, Erie County, Ohio, USA
Memorial ID 89865107 · View Source
Memorial
Photos 1
Flowers 1
Family Members
Spouse
John Nestra
1910–1984."
1familysearch web site http://www.familysearch.org, https://www.familysearch.org/. "Name: Peter Hoving
Age: 40
Birth Year (Estimated): 1851
Birth Date: 1851
Spouse's Name: Sjoertje Lubbers
Spouse's Age: 34
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1857
Spouse's Birth Date: 1857
License Type: Marriage
Event Date: 31 Jan 1891
Event Place: Roseland, Cook, Illinois
Additional Relatives: Y
GS Film number: 1030199
Digital Folder Number: 4226457
Image Number: 1217
Citing this Record
"Illinois, Cook County Marriages, 1871-1920", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N7XJ-962 : 10 March 2018), Peter Hoving and Sjoertje Lubbers, 31 Jan 1891."
1wiewaswie.nl, GenLIAS replacement, https://images.memorix.nl/gra/thumb/250x250/53825b60-2465-816d-2d33-44ba84fd2309.jpg . "
BS Huwelijk met Lammert Lubbers
Groom
Lammert Lubbers
Profession
boerenknecht
Birth place
Engelbert gem. Noorddijk
Age
31 jaar
Bride
Sjoerdtje Gerbens Hoekstra
Profession
dienstbode
Birth place
Oenkerk gem. Tietjerksteradeel
Age
27 jaar
Father of the groom
Evert Lubbers
Mother of the groom
Johanna Heringa
Father of the bride
Gerben Wijbrands Hoekstra
Profession
arbeider
Mother of the bride
Minke Jacobs Sikma
Profession
Arbeidster
Event
Huwelijk
Event date
12-05-1883
Event place
Noorddijk
Document type
BS Huwelijk
Institution name
Groninger Archieven
Institution place
Groningen
Collection region
Groningen
Sourcenumber
4
Registration date
12-05-1883
Certificate place
Noorddijk
Collection
Bron: boek, Periode: 1883
Book
Huwelijksregister 1883
AkteSoort
huwelijk."2ryksargyf web site, http://www.ryksargyf.org/nl/ryksargyf.asp. Friesland records source.
3familysearch web site http://www.familysearch.org, https://www.familysearch.org/. "Name: Susan Haan
Event Type: Census
Event Year: 1900
Event Place: Precinct 37 Calumet Township Chicago city Ward 31, Cook, Illinois, United States
Gender: Female
Age: 45
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Race (Original): W
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Wife
Number of Living Children: 4
Years Married: 1
Birth Date: Jul 1855
Birthplace: Holland
Marriage Year (Estimated): 1899
Immigration Year: 1887
Father's Birthplace: Holland
Mother's Birthplace: Holland
Mother of how many children: 4
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Harm Haan Head M 50 Holland
Susan Haan Wife F 45 Holland
Lewis Haan Son M 20 Illinois
Edward Lubbers Stepson M 17 Holland
Lena Lubbers Stepdaughter F 15 Holland
Johanna Lubbers Stepdaughter F 13 Illinois
Henry Hoving Stepson M 8 Illinois
District: 990
Sheet Number and Letter: 1A
Household ID: 3
Line Number: 7
Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)
Affiliate Publication Number: T623
GS Film Number: 1240285
Digital Folder Number: 004113744
Image Number: 00279
Citing this Record
"United States Census, 1900," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MS7M-L2V : accessed 17 November 2019), Henry Hoving in household of Harm Haan, Precinct 37 Calumet Township Chicago city Ward 31, Cook, Illinois, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) 990, sheet 1A, family 3, NARA microfilm publication T623 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1972.); FHL microfilm 1,240,285."4familysearch web site http://www.familysearch.org. "Name: Sjoertje Haan
Event Date: 15 Apr 1944
Event Place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Gender: Female
Race: White
Age: 88
Birth Year (Estimated): 1856
Birth Date: 10 Jul 1855
Birthplace: Friesland, Netherlands
Father's Name: Gerben Hoekstra
Father's Birthplace: Netherlands
Mother's Name: Menke Sikma
Mother's Birthplace: Netherlands
Occupation: Inmate Old Peoples Home
Residence Place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Spouse's Name: Harm
Burial Date: 18 Apr 1944
Burial Place: Worth Township, Cook, Illinois
Cemetery: Mt. Greenwood
Other information in the record of Sjoertje Haan
Name: Sjoertje Haan
Event Date: 15 Apr 1944
Event Place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Gender: Female
Race: White
Age: 88
Birth Year (Estimated): 1856
Birth Date: 10 Jul 1855
Birthplace: Friesland, Netherlands
Father's Name: Gerben Hoekstra
Father's Birthplace: Netherlands
Mother's Name: Menke Sikma
Mother's Birthplace: Netherlands
Occupation: Inmate Old Peoples Home
Residence Place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Spouse's Name: Harm
Burial Date: 18 Apr 1944
Burial Place: Worth Township, Cook, Illinois
Cemetery: Mt. Greenwood
Digital Folder Number: 4206169
Image Number: 1622
GS Film number: 1983246
Reference ID: rn 11538
Citing this Record
"Illinois Deaths and Stillbirths, 1916-1947," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N3H7-NJZ : 10 March 2018), Harm in entry for Sjoertje Haan, 15 Apr 1944; Public Board of Health, Archives, Springfield; FHL microfilm 1,983,246."5familysearch web site http://www.familysearch.org. "Name: Peter Hoving
Age: 40
Birth Year (Estimated): 1851
Birth Date: 1851
Spouse's Name: Sjoertje Lubbers
Spouse's Age: 34
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1857
Spouse's Birth Date: 1857
License Type: Marriage
Event Date: 31 Jan 1891
Event Place: Roseland, Cook, Illinois
Additional Relatives: Y
GS Film number: 1030199
Digital Folder Number: 4226457
Image Number: 1217
Citing this Record
"Illinois, Cook County Marriages, 1871-1920", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N7XJ-962 : 10 March 2018), Peter Hoving and Sjoertje Lubbers, 31 Jan 1891."
1familysearch web site http://www.familysearch.org, https://www.familysearch.org/. "Name: Henry Hoving
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 07 Feb 1973
Event Place: Los Angeles, California, United States
Birth Date: 04 Feb 1892
Birthplace: Illinois
Gender: Male
Citing this Record
"California Death Index, 1940-1997," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VPHV-NK2 : 26 November 2014), Henry Hoving, 07 Feb 1973; Department of Public Health Services, Sacramento."
1Ancestry DNA ThruLines Conversation, https://www.ancestry.com/dna/, email from Phyllis Friesema. Conversations with others through Ancestry DNA. "
Hi John
It's not necessary to track Mike down, I just thought it interesting that Jan married a Vermeer that might have been a relative. Another interesting fact, Jan's family, Pete & Liz Hiemstra lived in Delavan Wisconsin when your dad was there.
As far as sharing information I just usually type it out. I'm not nearly as technical as you. I will send a little at a time until you've had enough 😌
Gerben Wijbrens Hoekstra
Nov. 17, 1815 Hardegarjip, Tietjerksteradeel , Friesland
May 18, 1890 Oenkerk, Tietjerksteradeel, Friesland
Minke Jacobs Sikma
Dec. 1, 1832 Oudkerk Tietjerksteradeel, Friesland
March 27, 1913 Chicago, Cook, IL
Married April 9, 1852
Sjoerdtje Gerbens Hoekstra (3rd child)
July 10, 1855 Leeuwarden, Netherlands
April 15, 1944 Chicago, Cook, I
Lammert Evert Lubbers #1
Jan. 2, 1852 Noorddijk, Groningen, Netherlands
?????
Married Dec 5, 1882 Noorddijk, Groningen, Netherlands
Edward Lubbers
Aug 18, 1883 Noorddijk, Gronongen, Netherlands
July 13, 1963 Chicago, Cook, IL
Lena Lubbers
June 13, 1885 Netherlands
Oct 27 1959 Chicago, Cook, IL
Johanna Lubbers
Sept. 9, 1887 Netherlands
Aug. 10, 1964 Chicago, Cook, IL
Peter Hoving #2
Feb 17, 1850 Loon Op Zand, Noord-Brabant, Netherlands
March 5, 1895 Chicago, cook, IL
Married Jan 31, 1891 Chicago, Cook, IL
Henry Hoving
Feb 3, 1892 Chicago, Cook, IL
Feb 7, 1973 Los Angeles, Los Angeles, CA
Gertie Hoving
July 2, 1894 Chicago, Cook, IL
July 25 1895 Chicago, Cook, IL
Harm Haan #3
Susan and Harm didn't have any children together, but Harm had 2 sons from his first marriage
Menne Haan
Jan 2, 1878 Chicago, Cook, IL
Aug 15, 1975 Chicago, Cook, IL
Louis Haan
July 1, 1880 Chicago, Cook, IL
April 1, 1970 Chicago, Cook, IL
Louis Married Lena Lubbers on Sept. 15, 1904 in Chicago, Cook. IL They had 6 children
More next time
On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 4:09 PM John Vermeerwrote:
Merry Christmas late, Phyllis,
I will respond to both of yesterday's emails here.
My Dad's last church was in Iowa. But it was Kanawha, IA not Pella. I must have mistyped that as Pella. I do have a second cousin, Michael Len Vermeer. I do not have any contact with him and I always thought he was in Colorado. His family did have Iowa roots somehow and he certainly might be the Mike Vermeer you reference. Like me, Michael Len Vermeer is 60 years old. I will try to contact a cousin on that side who should know his whereabouts.
The 16000 descendants that you refer to must be my Ancestry tree. Right? I did make much of the data for living people private and I am sure that Ancestry helped me out. I'd love to have as many details as you are willing to share. I am particularly interested in your direct line because a "paper trail" and a "DNA link" really double validates our common Hoekstra connection.
Do you have a favorite method for sharing data?
We did a double Christmas. We had most of the fam here last weekend and then we spend Christmas eve and day in Vancouver, Canada with our daughter and son-in-law. So we've had a week long celebration - it was lots of fun and tiring.
John
On 12/25/2019 8:40 PM, Phyllis Friesema wrote:
> Hi again,
> You said your Dad was a minister who had a church in Pella Iowa. Do you have a relative named Mike Vermeer in Pella who is married to Janet Hiemstra?
> Janet is my husband Al's 1st cousin, his dad and her mom were brother & sister. Interesting!!!
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 25, 2019 at 8:50 PM Phyllis Friesemawrote:
>
> Hi John,
> Christmas pretty much grabbed a hold of my life but it's over now and back to normal. Going through your scans the information you have is the same as mine. I do have one question; some of your listings in the scans have dates and some of them don't. Are you interested in the missing dates or do you have them listed somewhere else. I know you said you were interested in going as fare back as you could and be as accurate as possible but are you interested in filling in more current generations. You already have 16000 entries but I might be able to help you with some of the ones that come up as private if you're interested.
> Happy New Year,
> Phyllis
>
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 7:56 PM John Vermeerwrote:
>
> Hi Phyllis,
>
> Thanks for the photo. My program allows me to attach pictures to records so it will be extra nice to have for that.
>
> I am sorry that you lost Al. As I search the record I've also seen that you may have lost two of your sons as well. This is one time that I hope I am mistaken. It's hard to know what to say, but I hope and pray that you've found peace with all of this!
>
> I do have 10 children for Minke Jacobs Sikma and Gerben Wybrens. They are in the attached Group Sheet.
>
> I also found a death record scan for Gerben Dirks van der KOOI. It's attached.
>
> But most important (in my mind) is a transcription of the Bible record of Janke Sipkes (Sypkel). Janke Sipkes was the wife of Gerben Dirks van der KOOI. My dad's cousin, Kay Schlam, has this Bible and about 20 years ago provided a typed transcription. The attached document has my comments and interpretation of this transcription. Some day I hope to be able to see this old Bible.
>
> If you see anything in what I sent that looks wrong, please let me know. And let me know if you think I might have a scan or information that you might want.
>
> John
>
> ************************************************
>
> On 11/20/2019 3:52 PM, Phyllis Friesema wrote:
>> Hi John, nice picture, thanks for sending it. I'm sending one of my husband Al and I taken shortly before he died. I will gladly go through what I have on Gerben. You are a lot more organized than I am, but I will check what I have against yours and see if there are any differences. I'm sure if there are,I will be the one changing my information :).
>> One thing, I was not aware of his first wife van der Meulen so thank you for that. Your list does not mention his second wife Minke Jacobs Sikma. I would assume you have her and her 10 children since your tree is so large, but if you don't I can fill you in, give me a little bit of time to get back to you. By the way, my husband has relatives in Lynden, the Hiemstra's, this world just keeps getting smaller and smaller.
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>> Phyllis
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>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 11:37 AM John Vermeerwrote:
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>> Ha,
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>> Thought you might also enjoy this photo. Becky and I at our daughter's
>> wedding party in October.
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>> John
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>> On 11/18/2019 12:06 PM, Phyllis Friesema wrote:
>> > Got them, thanks! It's 2 in the afternoon and we're in the middle of a
>> > rain/snow mix so putting on the fireplace and trying to navigate these
>> > sounds like a great way to spend my evening.
>> > By the way, I understand the nerdy engineer thing. Our son was a civil
>> > engineer and our grandson is a nuclear engineer in the navy stationed
>> > in Washington. He's at the Bangor sub base near Bremerton. I'm still
>> > in the Christian Reformed Church, I was the church secretary for 18
>> > years until I retired in 2017.
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