Conviction & Pressing Past the Guilt and Shame

Joyce Meyer Ministries Teachings

Conviction

 

Thank God, for the Holy Spirit who restrains us.

I am so grateful for the Holy Spirit in my life, and for conviction.

We are making progress when we get to the point that we know we are about to do something wrong. Because you see when you start out, you do it wrong and you don’t even know it. You are so used to acting that way it isn’t even a problem, you just think that is the way you aught to do it. If somebody doesn’t act right you need tell them off.

And you know, a few rounds around the mountain with God, a few seminars, and Bible studies, you finally get to the point were after you do it wrong, three days after you do it wrong, you’re thinking “well maybe I shouldn’t have acted that way.”

Then finally, God deals with you for another two weeks you go back and apologies.

The longer we are in the thing, we get to the point, if we do something wrong, we know it.

I will tell you when you really made progress, when you know before you do it, that you are about to do it, and you know how to say no to your flesh and say yes to God.

That is progress; and that is how it happens; in stages, and degrees, from Glory to Glory to Glory.

Don’t get mad that you haven’t arrived. At least stay on the journey; don’t just settle somewhere and say “you know everyone acts this way, what’s the problem.”

 

I am concerned…

 

It doesn’t do us any good to run around with bumper stickers on our cars and rhinestone Jesus pins and cross’ hanging all over our bodies. Wearing our tape recorders to work saying “Praise the Lord, Hallelujah, and muttering in tongues”; If you do that. Not if you do not have any corresponding fruit.

You will know them by their fruit, not by their bumper sticker.

 

An apple tree doesn’t have to stand around yelling I’M AN APPLE TREE! LOOK AT ME! I’M AN APPLE TREE! No you just walk up to it see the apples, and say, “hmm this must be apple tree.”  Amen.

 

(Later in sermon)

 

Church let me tell you something.

 

The beginning of knowledge is the reverential fear and awe of God.

People who have no fear of God will do anything and not care. People who have fear of God will do anything, but will do anything God tells them to; because they are afraid in a right way to disobey God. We need to be afraid to disobey God, not afraid of Him, but of respect; a reverential fear and awe .. God, we are dealing with God.

 

Closing word.

 

I just want to encourage you that God loves you and He has an awesome plan for your life.

I also want to encourage you that you do have the fruit self-control on the inside of your Spirit, and you can learn to walk in it. I believe we can all make better choices everyday, and we can live a Holy life. The Bible says, “The beginning of knowledge is the reverential fear and awe of God.”  Not a wrong kind of fear, but a proper reverential fear that let us know that God is God and He means what He says. We need to respond to Him by doing our absolute best every single day.

 

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Pressing Past Guilt and Shame

 

Hebrews 10:14-17

14 For by a single offering He has forever completely cleansed and perfected those who are consecrated and made holy. 15 And also the Holy Spirit adds His testimony to us [in confirmation of this}. For having said. 16 This is the agreement (testament, covenant) that I will set up and conclude with them after those days, says the Lord: I will imprint My laws upon their hearts, and I will inscribe them on their minds (on their inmost thoughts and understanding),

 

This is for all of our life, everyday. The Lord is after a relationship not your perfect performance.

Feelings you lie; you know why you lie? Because, I have already repented for that thing you are trying to make me feel guilty about. I was sincerely when I repented, so you lie, you lie, you lie. I do not believe you anymore.

If you don’t do this there is no help for you. You cannot wait till you feel right to believe you are right. You have to start believing the right thing when you still feel wrong. That’s what it means to press past the pain. Because it doesn’t feel right top say “I’m the righteousness of God” Right after I have done some stupid thing it feels ridiculous. You have to start doing the right thing while you feel wrong. Then your feelings will catch up to the truth. If you wait till you feel right, your feelings are going to rule you, and Satin works through them to keep you in bondage.

 

Stop letting your feelings vote. Do what God has told me to do.

 

We try and cover up for what we feel like we really are, you know what we do?:

            We make an excuse that’s a good cover.

            We blame other people.

            We pretend that things don’t bother us.

A lot of people don’t even know who they are.

            Stop trying to be somebody else.

            Stop putting on an act for somebody.

            Just be real. If you are hurting just say you are hurting.

Insecure people don’t know how to have a serious relationship with people, all they can do is joke, and jest and cut-up all the time. You now why, because they are afraid to be genuine and real. So everything has to become something silly.

 

There are all kinds of ways we do it. The problem is, is that none of it works.

Luke Ch. 12 says “everything that is covered-up will be exposed, brought out in the open.

 

People with a shame based nature are almost always out of balance. They are either to much one way or to much of another. There is nothing wrong with the type of people who can joke around and cut-up. Some people have more of that type of temperament than others. There is nothing wrong with anything unless it gets out of balance. When it does it opens the door for the Devil.

1Peter 5:8 says “be well balanced (temperate, sober of mind) be vigilant and cautious at all times: for that enemy of ours, the devil, roams around like a lion roaring [in fierce hunger] seeking someone to seize upon and devour.

 

People who have been abused almost always take on a shame based nature.

When you do that you poison your system. Everything in you becomes poison.

The meaning of shame is: Confounded, confused, and disappointed and stopped.

 

Have you ever wondered why no matter what you try to do it just doesn’t seem to work out?

            Maybe your problem is way down deep inside you just don’t like yourself.

            Maybe way down deep inside you are just a shamed of who you are.

            A shamed of wear you came from.

I can tell you all that what I was, because I am not that anymore. I am not what I was; I am a new creature in Christ.

 

When she talks about her past to teach on something, she feels like she is talking about somebody she used to vaguely know, way back over there (far away) somewhere.

 

*”Freedom is to not let your past effect your today.”

 

Confounded means to be: Defeated, overthrown, and damned.

Damned means doomed to punishment.

 

So if you have a shamed based nature. The result is you are damned to punishment. You are punishing yourself everyday by not liking yourself.

 

People who have a shamed based nature are often

  • Depressed – Ask, “how do I feel about myself?”
  • Many alienate themselves from other people.
  • They live in self doubt and no confidence.
  • Many become perfectionists.
  • They get all their self worth out of people applauding them and telling them how perfect they are.
  • Many get addicted to approval.

 

Do you know how painful it is to be addicted to approval? Where no one can ever tell you that they don’t like what you are doing, and you stay happy.

You need get to the point of when someone says “I don’t like your hair that way” and you say I do.

I am not saying you become belligerent and you can’t take advice from any body. Please keep the balance.

What I am saying is if you are addicted to approval you will never have any freedom. Satan can arrange 10 times everyday to give you the wrong look, the wrong glance, the wrong word that then puts you on a trip on trying to change yourself to suit them so then you are never true to your own self.

 

People who have toxic shame, poisonous shame many times are cold and unfriendly.

I was like that’ very hard hearted, cold and unfriendly. I didn’t need you; I didn’t want you in my life anyway. Because I figured you would hurt me if I let you in.

Then, if I let you in you would get to know me and I couldn’t stand that.

 

People abused are:

            They are jealous.

            Have a competitive spirit.

            Often angry and quick tempered.

            They either won’t confront anything or to aggressive.

People respond in different ways based on personalities.

She knows someone who had abuse in her childhood also.

 

Donna

  1. To timid – She wouldn’t confront anything.
  2. She had the gift of Mercy.
  3. Sweet.
  4. She would consol people all day.

 

Joyce Meyer

  1. Overly aggressive – I confronted anything that moved.
  2. She didn’t even know what the word meant.
  3. Obnoxious -I would look at her and lower my voice to sound sweet.
  4. I would listen to you 5 minutes; I new what your problem was. I new what you needed to do. As far as I was concerned you could go home and do it or not come back.

 

I counseled people early on in my ministry and stopped doing it when I found out people really don’t want help. That most of them only wanted to talk about their problems. Even if they got over the problem, they would be back next week to talk about a new problem.

 

Donna would be so merciful and say things like oh, oh, oh really tell me more. And I’m thinking “shut-up”.

It wasn’t that I didn’t want to help them. I found out if you are trying to help someone for years and they still aren’t helped, it’s not working.

So I was trying to be merciful like Donna and sweet, and tried to sound softer and kinder. She and I couldn’t get along. I wanted a relationship with her, probably for all the wrong reasons because she was the pastor’s wife and I wanted her to accept me. Because I new it would give me position. I didn’t know all that then. I didn’t realize I kept trying to get into a relationship with her because I wanted the prestige of being a friend of the pastor’s wife.

We need to know ourselves. God wasn’t letting it work, because my motive was wrong. So often our motives stink, and we keep trying to push something that is just a dead horse.

Here is a piece of wisdom, “If the horse is dead” - dismount.”

 

Continued; another day same lecture.

 

Acts Ch.1:8 – But you shall receive power (ability, efficiency, and might) when the Holy Spirit has come upon you, and you shall be My witnesses in Jerusalem and all Judea and Samaria and to the ends (the very bounds) of the earth.

 

Power to be “my witness”, it didn’t say to do witnessing.

God has given us power to be. Not to get up everyday and try to do some kind of behavior to impress people. He has given us the power, the Holy Ghost power to be just like Jesus. Why, because we have had a nature transplant.

I am a nice person’ I may not always everyday act nice, but I am a nice person. If I believe that I will get nicer and nicer everyday.

*You cannot produce what you do not believe about yourself. You cannot produce in your behavior what you don’t believe about yourself.

 

That is why doing right will never make you righteous

 

Religion says:

You go to church.

Clean yourself up; you cut your hair.

You put on a three piece suit.

You behave a certain way when you come into the building.

You take classes for 6 weeks.

You adopt our rules and that makes you a Christian.

You know how many are sitting in church and going to Hell? You know why, because they don’t know him.

Jesus said “I never new you.

Jesus said “depart from me I don’t know you.

But Lord we did this, we did that, we did this, we did that!

Jesus said “I never new you”.

 

I knocked on doors every Wednesday doing witnessing but I was not a witness.

I was controlling, manipulative, angry, bitter, resentful, rebellious, hateful, hard to get along with, selfish, and self-centered. “Why would anybody want what I have? I was a sour puss, rarely ever smiled, grouched at everybody, barked orders at my kids all the time, and got mad every time I didn’t get my own way. 

I received that power to BE.

 

Now that doesn’t mean I never make a mistake. That doesn’t mean I never have a bad day. But, it does mean I have more good days than bad days. My behavior is improving all the time.

I didn’t improve very much; my progress was horribly slow until I learned to get off the tread mill of guilt.

 

Making a mistake on Monday, feel the guilt on Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday, then I would start to feel better since I felt I suffered long enough to pay for what I did Monday.

*All guilt is, is our pathetic way of sacrificing something to make up for what we have done wrong. Either Jesus did a complete and thorough job and doesn’t need our help or he didn’t.

 

My Bible says that He was the final, the only, and the complete sacrifice that will ever need to be made.

I can’t just do wrong and just not care.  Don’t worry about that. If you are a true believer in Jesus Christ, there is no way you can ever sin and not care. It is not possible, because you have anew heart.

 

There is a difference in caring and being condemned.

Paul said “I want to be perfect” If God did allow us to do every thing all right, we would be so stinking proud of ourselves and so self-righteous. If I could do it all right I wouldn’t need Him. He wouldn’t have a job.

No matter how hard you try you are never going to live without making a mistake. If you are going to feel like you have to feel rotten and bad several times every time you do, you are going to have one stinking life.

 

I am talking about believing the word. Remember forgetting what lies behind. How to forget; stop thinking about it, and stop talking about it. Keep pressing on to the good things that are a head.

 

Philippians 3:15 so let those [of us] who are spiritually mature and full-grown have this mind and hold these convictions.

He is saying the spiritually mature know how to let go of past mistakes and go on with out suffer of guilt for days on end.

Baby Christians still need milk and can’t take meat, are the ones that feel rotten about themselves for days every time they make a mistake. Hebrew 5:12-14.

 

I am saying you have a blood bought right to actually feel good about yourself.

 

 

* People who have been mistreated think they are being mistreated because there is something wrong with them. They take on a false sense of guilt and shame that actually poisons their whole life.

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J.M. is Joyce Meyer Ministries and the Enjoying Everyday Life, show and magazine